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Hillary Clinton “Fans”, PUMA and a Year of Bitterness.

The main lesson I learnt from the long Democratic Primaries last year was if you run a campaign that descends to racism and then further descends to a not so veiled threat about the potential assassination of a prospective Presidential candidate while running leaflets with his head in the sights of a sniper rifle,

Clinton Guns Campaign

do not be surprised when some of your more extreme supporters become nutters.

A disaffiliated group of Hillary supporters came together after the DNC Rules Committee on 31 May compromised and allowed Representatives from Florida and Michigan to vote at the Democratic National Convention. It was a compromise because the rules were clear that Florida and Michigan as a result of pushing their Primaries forward should not have delegates. The Republican Party imposed a similar punishment, although they originally agreed to seat just half the usual delegate number.

Hillary Clinton signed a pledge that all other Democratic Candidates supported that supported the punishment. It was called The Four State Pledge. This was on September 1 2007

Clinton Misspeak Release

All was well and good then, all the candidates agreed the punishment. They agreed not to participate. She told New Hampshire Radio, she was proud of its place as the first real Primary. Hillary Clinton stated clearly that the election in Michigan would not count, she said (on audio), “It’s clear, this election they’re having is not going to count for anything, but I just personally did not want to set up a situation where the Republicans are going to be campaigning between now and whenever, and then after the nomination, we have to go in and repair the damage to be ready to win Michigan in 2008.” She added later she “is totally dedicated to New Hampshire”.

It is also of note that during that interview that she said all the candidates were extremely good and that she would not go negative. A misspeak?

From that interview, it also appears that she was not quite as hot on gay rights as the PUMA revisionists say.

After Florida and Michigan had their Primaries her position changed. Her campaign had lost in Iowa. It was clear that Hillary was no longer going to be given an automatic shoe in of the Democratic candidacy for President.

So she became all in favour of Florida and Michigan having full voting rights at the DNC. I guess her signature was another example of her misspeaking.

This is the statement issued by her campaign in Feb. 2008

“With regard to Michigan and Florida, our position is clear. We’re going to ask our delegates to vote to seat the delegations from Florida and Michigan. We do not think that that many Americans should have their votes and their voices and their preferences denied. We had an enormous turn-out, in particular in Florida, the largest turnout in the history of the Democratic primary in Florida. And we believe that it is critically important that those delegates have an opportunity to express their preferences at the convention. I don’t believe that anyone seriously thinks that we are going to have a national convention in which the delegations of Florida and Michigan are not going to have a say. So that is our position.” Clinton Campaign Feb. 2008

The Hillary crazies are upset that Howard Dean as Chair of the Democratic Party sought to uphold the rules that she agreed to. One Year Later they remain bitter.

It should be noted that a large chunk of Michigan voters came out to vote Anyone But Hillary

Hillary Clinton 328,309 55.23%
Dennis Kucinich 21,715 3.65%
Christopher Dodd 3,845 0.65%
Mike Gravel 2,361 0.40%
Uncommitted 238,168 40.07%

The 40.07% that voted “uncommitted” came out to vote for the candidate that was NOT HILLARY CLINTON. If the likes of PUMA want to do some weird calculation of the Popular vote, excluding all caucus state estimates (which he won almost all of), then the uncommitted votes either need to be added to Obama or deducted from Hillary votes.

They reject absolutely any account of racism from the Clinton camp. So the fact that key members of her campaign team were using racist dog whistles is fine to them. Billy Shaheen suggested that Obama may have dealt drugs without any evidence supporting that allegation. BET chief Robert Johnson alluded to Obama’s admitted drug use as a teenager to suggest something similar. Both of them had direct ties to Hillary’s campaign, he did not disassociate herself from them.

These were of course the same tricks tried on Jesse Jackson. He was accused of associating with Farakhan, Obama was accused of going to a racist church. The Hillary camp lured the media who were bored by a 6 week lull in the Primaries and kept pushing 5 second tapes of Rev Wright that rather more forcibly used the same logic for 9/11 as Ron Paul. Is Ron Paul a “racist black man”? The logic of Right and Paul on this is however sound. If you drop bombs on people – they are going to want revenge.

What was done to Jeremiah Wright, who served in the US Marine Corps, was trusted enough to tend President Eisenhower and who was a confidante of Bill Clinton was a disgrace.

The few seconds of clips were ALL that could be found, from dozens of tapes that had been sent to the Media.

Then there was the “affirmative action candidate” meme. Expressed by yet another Clinton campaign member. Geraldine Ferraro said of the then candidate, “If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position.” It was not a one off for her. In the Washington Post, 20 years before the Obama comment she said, “if Jesse Jackson were not black, he wouldn’t be in the race.”

Who would have thought that being black was a head start in America? Especially if you were from a one parent family.

Even at the DNC Rules Meeting, Harold Ickes, the Clinton spokesman, got an “affirmative action” dig in.

There has been not one shred of evidence that the same level of bigotry in terms of sexism was applied to Hillary Clinton by any of his official campaign team. Samantha Power called Hillary a monster and was SACKED. Hillary did not sack Ferraro, although after she quit Hillary condemned her remarks.

If the remnants of the PUMA groups believe President Obama was responsible for the sexists on the internet, or for those selling Hillary nut crackers (there were also Obama ones available), then what was done to Obama by well known blogger Larry Johnson was in the same way her fault. The Whitey Tape accusations were nothing but disgusting racism.

Johnson now has the audience he deserves though. While he tries to move to be a less partisan site, refocusing on attacking his pet hate of Cheney, his audience and front page writers are still lunatics. He has outsourced who gets blocked to an appropriately named blogger, SusanUnPC. His radio show host is a Paulie Abeles with very dubious history. He helped foster the “birther” movement through TexasDarlin. Although they have since parted ways.

I trust that the Secret Service now understands who they are dealing with if and when they read posts like this on NoQuarter.

Comment by politicalidentitycrisis | 2009-04-27 00:18:57
I think it would be very apropos for the swine flu to hit DC, especially if The One were to get the swine flu. Yes, very apropos.
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Comment by FLDemFem | 2009-04-27 00:50:38
Washington DC is primarily populated by black people. Most of them do not have health insurance, or adequate health care. If the swine flu were to hit DC in large numbers, it would be devastating. It is quite possible that hundreds, if not thousands, of people would die. Obummer wouldn’t be in town, he would go to Camp David. Or not step off the grounds of the White House. He wouldn’t be exposed. But it’s nice of you not to think of that and wish something like this on the premier black city in the country. For political reasons, of course. Never mind the human toll, as long as Obummer feels bad, that’s what really counts, right?
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Comment by politicalidentitycrisis | 2009-04-27 08:35:19
As a matter of fact, yes! Most of DC voted for him if I remember correctly. A natural cleansing of the stupid people who are destroying the country, if not the world. Nature takes care of things…so F!@# you!

The association of Larry Johnson with the likes of TexasDarlin and TechDude, whose posts his site have now removed gave rise to the “birther” conspiracies. Again no racism there. For more on the stupid birthers read http://www.yestodemocracy.com/yes_to_democracy_no_to_pu/2009/05/worst-birther-lawyer-ever-birther-slapdown-update.html

The Muslim hatred still continues at NoQuarter.

I have previously posted on DU about the concerns I have about this left over rump movement of hate and how various members of the so called “PumaSphere” have gone so far as to issue death threats against the President. I believe that they have encouraged them and that some of their Leaders know exactly what they are doing by winding up these often disturbed individuals.

The problem is that it is clear that many of these disturbed people are being used. They are bitter, often old ladies. Almost all white, with a few exceptions. Well in that context, in the UK there are Asians who vote for the BNP. They remain bitter even though the election is over.

In part, because they are stupid enough to think that the President is a Muslim, or simply out of pure ignorance or racism, they want an all out war with Islam.

The PUMA FEC Dodger In Chief wrote this

murphy 05.21.09 at 2:02 pm

puma bear — absolutely agreed.

we should have dropped a bomb on Mecca on Sept 12, 2001 and another one on Messina the next day if the islamic leaders of the world didnt immediately surrender.

Oh and the last time I looked, the FEC Dodger in Chief had still not donated to Hillary Clinton.

This movement is the monster child of Mark Penn, someone who I place at around the same level of Dick Cheney. He created an image of Hillary Clinton that does not exist in reality. This image cost Hillary her nomination. He modelled her to become a right wing thug. Who can forget “hard working, white America”?

PUMA was created at The Confluence. A semi Liberal blog with its own pet misogynist pig. They are still bitter nuts who were happy to vote for McLame.


Thankfully, the results of the Primaries do not have to be left to the PUMA revisionists. There are enough others out there.

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  1. Heather
    June 4, 2009 at 5:14 am

    I couldn’t read that whole thing because you made some awful choices with your font/ background, but ITA! Let’s investigate anyone who ever questions the Messiah. How else can we keep our holy land pure for the Great Leader. Thank you for all you do in your quests.

    • thebigotbasher
      June 4, 2009 at 5:20 am

      The only groups that need investigating are those that make death threats against a President and Republicans who take money from bitter Clinton supporters, but fail to register what they have done with the money with the FEC.

      Oh – the same group. PUMAs.

      PS Ctrl + + increases font size.

    • thebigotbasher
      June 4, 2009 at 8:17 pm

      I have however accepted criticism of the colour scheme and have changed it. Hey PUMA have made a difference.

  2. tomUSA0
    April 26, 2010 at 7:51 am

    Hi everyone
    my name is Tom and im completely new to this forum.

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